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East Auckland Hammer
11:15 Thu Sep 21
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Sean O'Brien is an idiot, who should have been sent off for his forearm smash which knocked Naholo out.
The reason the Lions lost the first test was because there was a half decent referee controlling the match, not because his poor little legs were tired.
The Irish are turning into right fucking whingebags.
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Mart O
2:08 Thu Sep 21
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You only have to have heard the comments from Wales fans over the past few years to know that the majority despise Howley the way we did BFS.
Terrible coach who got given the job to keep him sweet while Gatland took time off from his proper job. Again.
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Northern Sold
1:59 Thu Sep 21
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To be fair Howley always comes across as a right village idiot... a proper Phil Neal...
If ever I want to laugh I watch the BANTZ' videos that Haskell done with his roomy O'Brien... amazing how opposites attract!!
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Sven Roeder
12:48 Thu Sep 21
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Sabotage
Who was the coach?
A bloody Kiwi!
Serves 'em right
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Mart O
12:40 Thu Sep 21
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Cheers, Ilford, I was too fucking lazy to Eddie B. The following from ESPN gives more detail on the workload:
Ireland back row Sean O'Brien has criticised coaching and training methods during the British & Irish Lions' Test series against New Zealand, insisting the tourists should have beaten the All Blacks.
O'Brien, who played in all three Tests as the Lions secured a series draw, was particularly critical of a triple training session laid on by coaches less than two days prior to the first encounter with the All Blacks.
That match ended in a 30-15 defeat and the Leinster forward, who told Off The Ball that he aired his concerns about the workload at the time, believes overloading the players so close to the game was a mistake.
The Lions, coached by Warren Gatland in New Zealand, rebounded to win the second Test and then draw the third but O'Brien is adamant that the series was there to be won.
"To be honest, I'd be pretty critical of it because I think we should have won the tour and we probably should have won it comfortably," he said.
"The first week, we definitely over-trained on the Thursday and maybe the coaches were panicking a little bit about getting the information into us.
"We did nearly a similar thing in the last week. So maybe it's more [from] a coaching point of view, in terms of taking lessons. Less is more sometimes on a tour like that, rather than trying to pick things up at the end of the week.
"And probably from a players' perspective, probably to be stronger and say 'look, we don't need that, we're ready to rock. We just need to be short and sharp'."
He added: "There's definitely proud moments in there. We can be proud of what we did out there at times.
"Not to be negative about it or anything, it was a great tour and everything. But at the end of the day I think, with the squad we had, we should have beaten them."
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Ilford Hammer
12:28 Thu Sep 21
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The British and Irish Lions could have whitewashed world champions New Zealand 3-0 had they been better coached, says flanker Sean O'Brien.
The Irishman started all three Tests of the 1-1 drawn series.
But he believes poor coaching prevented the Lions securing a historic victory.
"If we had a little more structure during the weeks, and more of an attack gameplan, driven way earlier in the tour, I think we could have won 3-0," O'Brien said.
"With the players we had, we should have won the series."
As well as criticising the preparation before the first and third Test matches by Warren Gatland and his staff, O'Brien was especially critical of attack coach Rob Howley.
The 30-year-old said the midfield pairing of Johnny Sexton and Owen Farrell were "running our attack shape" by the end of the tour.
"The coaches have a lot to answer for in terms of our attack rather than Johnny and Faz trying to drive it," said O'Brien.
"If I was being critical of any coach it would be the fact that I think Rob struggled with the group in terms of his attributes of trying to get stuff across whereas Johnny and Owen drove everything the second week, for instance, in our attack and had a better plan in place.
"So I don't know if it was people not buying into what he was about or whatever else.
"That's the hard thing about a Lions tour as well; getting everyone to listen to a coach that was probably set in his ways."
As well as assisting Gatland on the Lions tour, Howley works under the New Zealander in the Wales set-up.
Scotland head coach Gregor Townsend and Glasgow assistant Jason O'Halloran both turned down invitations to be part of Gatland's Lions staff, and O'Brien - who also toured in 2013 - says the best coaches must be recruited in four years' time.
"Coaching-wise they need to make sure they have the best coaches in the best positions - attack, defence, forwards, whatever it may be on a Lions tour," he said.
Speaking immediately after the drawn third Test in July, Gatland said: "Given the schedule, given how tough the tour was, to come to New Zealand and get a draw you've got to be proud of that."
The BBC has approached the Welsh Rugby Union for comment.
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Mart O
12:26 Thu Sep 21
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*beach, not bench
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Mart O
12:26 Thu Sep 21
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Interesting to see Sean O'Brien's comments on the failings of the Lions coaching team. He's essentially saying that they were overworked in training at the end of the week before the first test and that Rob Howley was incapable of communicating as attack coach, to the point that Sexton and Faz were running the show by the 2nd test.
To hear one the Lions best players, who pretty much completely outplayed the supposedly unmatchable Kiwi back row all on his fucking own, well, you have to wonder. And to think we left Alex King sitting on a bench somewhere...
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Mart O
5:31 Mon Sep 18
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What a boring cunt. Probably a child molester.
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East Auckland Hammer
2:31 Mon Sep 18
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Sorry Admiral, all our players are busy with Super Rugby when the 6 Nations is on.
What we REALLY need, is a global season, so if the NH can just get down off their high horse and work with the SH to sort that out, that would be great.
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Admiral Lard
12:54 Sun Sep 17
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Its a very poor SA side Jonah, and they are supposedly the best competition the ABs will face in what is rapidly becoming a devalued competition.
The facts a simple. It is alarming how much 3 of the 4 southern hem sides have slipped into decline since the RWC on 2 years ago.
Both SA and Australia are weakened sides and Argentina are heading backwards faster than Italy
You can only play whats in front of you, the ABs did a great job in scoring 57 unanswered points but, in all honesty, they should seriously consider applying to join the 6 nations if they want to keep standards up
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East Auckland Hammer
2:29 Sun Sep 17
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You must have loads of DVDs.
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Northern Sold
2:06 Sun Sep 17
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I've bought the DVD's when we have lost??
You weirdo
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East Auckland Hammer
1:30 Sun Sep 17
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Yeah, it was a good series.
Make sure you buy the DVD to celebrate the draw mate. What a momento of the closest you'll ever get to a series win in your lifetime.
swt
This is a bit like that time that England did a lap of honour when they drew with the ABs.
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Northern Sold
1:21 Sun Sep 17
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Well you see Jonah... I don't think there is a rugby fan in the world that probably thinks that the series was a superb sporting event... both sides made it special... but alas you just bring up the reffing etc... it's the only reason you never steamrollered us... like I said... see you at the home of Rugby next year you sad cunt....
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East Auckland Hammer
11:52 Sat Sep 16
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Ha ha what exactly would I jealous of NS?
We've just beaten SA 57 - 0.
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Northern Sold
10:48 Sat Sep 16
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Honestly Jonah your bitterness and jealous bile knows no equals... see you next year at the home of Rugby
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Takashi Miike
6:49 Sat Sep 16
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Barrett Jr
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East Auckland Hammer
6:41 Sat Sep 16
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Yep, NS. The Lions drew the series against the ABs solely on the back of the choice of referees. Superb stuff. They should release a DVD.
TM - Beauden? Last week he was poor but the Books gave him so much time and space he could do whatever he wanted. Younger brother Scott came on as to replace Squire who went off with a head knock and youngest brother Jordie is injured.
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Takashi Miike
6:12 Sat Sep 16
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did Barrett Jr play well? for me, will soon be the best player in the world
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Mad Dog
6:02 Sat Sep 16
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I just can't believe they actually showed a rape on live tv
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